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Try typing in "Lessons Learned. Yup, that's them stripping down to their birthday suits in the middle of New York City's Times Square.
The video was Matt's idea. Kim wasn't super-keen on getting buck naked in what is perhaps the busiest intersection in the world, in the brutal cold it was shot in February , but she acquiesced. Actually, if you pay attention, you'll see that Kim ends up totally nude before Matt does.
They both got balls. Their story goes like this: Kim thought Matt was hot; Matt was both intimidated and intrigued by Kim's tattoos. They moved in together three months later. They've shared a tour bus and a tiny apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn for the past six years. Now they're ready to move on.
They just bought their first place in the Clinton Hill neighborhood of Brooklyn, and they're gearing up to trade their old furniture for some "grown-up" stuff. When they'll actually find time to move is questionable—they just finished recording their new album and were about to head out on a US tour shortly after this interview—but we thought it would be fun to take them furniture shopping in Brooklyn.
Just 'cause, you know, they really ought to consider getting a bigger bed. So, tell us about this new place you guys just bought. It's in [the Brooklyn neighborhood of] Clinton Hill.
We both went to Pratt and we still have a certain love for the area— the tree-lined streets and stuff like that. It's a nice, cute little brownstone. We're still having the contractors going in there and everything, so I have to say I'm terrified something's going to happen that makes us not get it.
I've been a nervous wreck the past week. You have to think positively. I mean, if we want it we have it, Kim. Does it have outdoor space? I grew up in Vermont with nothing but outdoor space. My parents would open the door and be like, "See you later! I've been [in New York City] 10 years and haven't had a lick of outdoor space. So it'll be nice to have. Kim is for some reason freaked out by grass though. She won't sit on it. She just wants to pave over it.
I'm excited about maybe getting a dog though. Sometimes we go to the dog park during lunchtime breaks or whatever and watch from the outside. You can't go in unless you have a dog.
I always wonder if people are creeped out by us even being on the outside of the park, gawking at their dogs. There's this one kind of dog I want really badly. This is gonna sound so pathetic, but I have pictures cut from magazines of this dog. Matt knows what it is. We already named it. It's gonna be "Shorty. Did you have a hard time finding a place you both liked? We did search for about a year, but we agreed on everything we wanted for the most part.
Kim and I bizarrely agree on a lot of stuff, like way more than two people who spend 24 hours a day together should. Somehow we don't want to kill each other; that's the amazing thing. We're kind of the same person. We shared a cell phone for like six years. How did you call each other? We never had to—we're always together! What was on your list when you were house hunting? We wanted at least three bedrooms because we both do a lot of work at home.
Surprisingly, for a band, 95 percent of the work has nothing to do with music. Kim's always answering emails. We're just really involved with everything from the artwork to our music videos, so…we both wanted our own office space. We've been sharing one room as an office, but it makes it really easy for Kim to turn to me and be like, "Hey, what do you think of this? I think it might be a scientific fact that men cannot multitask. So we needed our own workspace.
Matt isn't very organized at all. I organize everything in our place except his computer. I'm the kind of dude that when the desktop gets full, I just drag it all into one folder called "desktop. Did you know for sure that you wanted to stay in Brooklyn?
We both grew up in the Northeast, so it's nice being a few hours away from where we both started out. I don't know, it's a weird addiction. Did you tell her about how you proposed when we were looking for a place?
You guys are engaged? No, not proposed like marriage-proposed. After a year of looking, we were hanging out in LA and went over to my friend's place, which is a great house in Silver Lake. So I peeked at some real estate—it's so much more affordable than it is here. I was like, "Kim, we should move to LA. And I said, "Hell no, thank you! You weren't serious, were you Matt?
I was kind of serious. I think it was a desperate feeling. Yeah, not to get all serious but We don't see our families or friends a whole lot. We hadn't found a place, we were stuck living in the place we're in now and things just seemed to be getting worse than they'd been in the past six years…. But luckily, we've had a good year.
Is it ready to move into, or are you going to do any major work first? We're moving the kitchen from the downstairs to the upstairs, so that's a big job. It's a fully gut-renovated building, so it's a good slate to start with. The dream is not to have a practice space anymore and just be able to have a room set up in our apartment.
So we're talking about soundproofing…. Are you bringing any of the furniture you have or buying all new stuff? We have some finds—like a couple of old '50s tables and some cool, old chairs—but we're definitely looking forward to getting new things. We'd always see things we wanted and not be able to get them because we cannot fit another thing into our [current] apartment. We live in less than square feet now, and the new place is around 2, or 3, We're at the point where we're thinking about what's going to go where, and every day I'm going to the store to buy another home magazine….
I'd definitely like to get rid of all our [low-end] furniture. I think that's another grown-up step. Is there anything you've seen that you can't wait to get?
There are a lot of great stores around [Williamsburg]. But I also know that in Vermont, the used furniture market is a lot less expensive. We want to take a road trip with a box truck and see what we can find. We want a giant kitchen table, one of those really big tables with a thick wooden top. Yeah, my brother and I did our homework at our kitchen table every day. We didn't go to our rooms.